MGTOW – Stoic Gratitude

MGTOW men, welcome back.

For those that don’t know, last weekend “This is Life With Lisa Ling” featured divorced fathers and the struggles that they go through in earning custody, not getting custody, working through divorces and dealing with the financial determinants that are associated with it. In that episode, Lisa interviewed Big John from MGTOW is Freedom, or how he is currently known, the Society for Men’s Freedom.

They did a multi-hour interview, but as expected for what I think is either an hour or a 90-minute special, only about four minutes of the interview was used. The thing is, I can’t expect them to use a lot of the interview. It’s just how mainstream media is and it’s part of the issue with mainstream media, it presents a lot of constraints.

I too did an interview with Lisa. I didn’t do a face-to-face interview, don’t worry. I did what was probably a 40-minute interview with her. It wasn’t used, and the producer actually apologized to JerryLiu, who was liaison for the interview. That’s fine. But, I wanted to make you aware of that.

I chatted with Jerry for about two hours yesterday and we rehashed this. You can go to his channel and listen to our live stream. We haven’t done a live stream for quite some time, I think since February, so we had a lot of catching up to do. I hope that you enjoy it.

Jerry finishes with a reading from Deuteronomy, chapter 24:19. With it being Thanksgiving this week, I wanted to touch on a passage from the Bible that relates to thankfulness and having gratitude. Humility and gratitude are related. Humility and strength are related. Gratitude and strength are connected. It’s all an attitude. It’s all a perspective. It’s all derived from your state of mind and how you perceive your situation.

Stoicism is embracing reality for what it is, but when you embrace reality, you also know the dichotomy of where you could be. In that is joy. Gratitude creates joy, and joy is the ultimate possession because it’s the end result of anything that you could ever want from the things that you work for in life.

So with that, let me read this passage and I’ll connect the dots in a minute.

Deuteronomy 24:19-22

When you are harvesting in your field and you overlook a sheaf, do not go back to get it. Leave it for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. When you beat the olives from your trees, do not go over the branches a second time. Leave what remains for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow. When you harvest the grapes in your vineyard, do not go over the vines again. Leave what remains for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow. Remember that you were slaves in Egypt. That is why I command you to do this.

The MGTOW journey is a humbling journey. It’s mistaken as being a haughty journey. MGTOW men are believed to be full of false bravado. Going back to talking about the Big John interview with Lisa Ling, when a MGTOW man is talking about being weak and is talking about why he has arrived at these conclusions and the struggles that he has in his own life, a lot of people are surprised and confused at what they are hearing.

MGTOW is humbling because it’s the decision to face the reality of the brokenness of the world that we are living in and the brokenness in a lot of us. The brokenness in me is the strength in my channel, and the willingness to be exposed is the power of this passage that I read.

We are vulnerable, and I’m especially vulnerable as a male in his 20s. Nothing is secure. My job, my position in society, consistency is not established, and anything that I gain I cling on to and I don’t give up as I believe that I have to hang on to it to get ahead. But, the best way to gain ground is to give up what I’ve gained so that I don’t cling to the things that I’ve gained in order to keep my thoughts from being result oriented and driven, but rather ambition and interest driven. When that is the case we are not met with nerves when we do things. We are not met with the need for recognition, for status, for success. Instead, we are met with the goals of character, a pure heart and pursuing what we want to pursue with passion.

So, give. Leave and be thankful for what you have, even if you’ve lost what you’ve had. It’s hard to say and it’s hard to say. And it’s awfully fitting right now as all of my videos were demonetized this week. That’s okay for me. I was never in it for the clout. This was never going to get me that Space Ghost whip that I wanted, haha. Maybe it’s a message that I need to leave a little bit more in the fields behind me for all of the people that have left their wheat in the fields for me.

So, MGTOW requires gratitude because for many men it’s about turning away from pleasure. It’s about turning away from pleasure that they know could result in destruction or the loss of their sense of self. It’s giving up one thing to get another thing, another better thing. It’s often abounding when the world is abasing you.

How do you recover. Well, you give what you can give and you leave what you’ve earned. In that you gain more. Thankfulness and gratitude.


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