MGTOW – What Career Should I Pursue?

Welcome back MGTOW men.

I get the question often, especially from young MGTOWs in college and high school, what profession do I go into? So, for all of you guys that have asked me that question, this is my take on it for today and I hope that you can find some advice from it.

Men, the number one thing right here that trumps it all, is that when you ask me what type of job I should get and you also say that you’re going MGTOW, I want to say to you this most important thing:

Your job does not mean the same thing that the job to a 33-year old recently married with two kids husband does. When you’re MGTOW your job is a tool, it’s not your existence.

Brothers, that’s one of the main reasons I go MGTOW and was the biggest fear of mine during my first relationship. She wanted to have kids at the time and she had some major debts to pay off and I said, okay – if I can remove about $500,000 or so in not having kids and avoid another $100K in extraneous expenses that come from marriage, getting possessions I don’t want and so forth, then that’s about 12 years of my income.

Men, you just gained yourself 12 years of freedom that you would have otherwise signed away at the altar. So, when you ask me what type of job you want, please first ask yourself what the heck your end game is. If you want to marry and date, this isn’t even the same question. It becomes something different.

Because, unless you get lucky and miraculously marry a coupon-clipper, who will be crazy for other reasons, your biggest expense is likely going to be your marriage and what comes of it.

So These Are Some of My Highly Recommended Jobs:

  • Engineer of some sort
  • Serve in the military
  • Computer science or information technologies, programming
  • Trade skills, welding, mechanic
  • Government research (friend with Naval Research Lab)
  • Scientific research
  • Internet marketer
  • Stock trader or broker
  • For those into sports, working in baseball or hockey is your best bet
  • Have a few side gigs
    • Blog, sell a product online, offer some online service
  • Tour guide (kayak guide)
  • Martial arts or self-defense guide or teacher

Avoid:

  • Many public relations or advertising jobs (my experiences)
  • Education
  • Working at a university
  • Working in social justice areas or social work of some sort
  • Psychology/counseling
  • Politics and law

Thus, I’d be recommending you the jobs with the big bucks okay, and a lot of long hours, otherwise you likely won’t keep your marriage or much of your money. You’re talking about an engineer, computer scientist, someone in the medical field, a high-level lawyer, or other risky blue collar occupations such as being an under-water welder.

So men, that’s principle number one whenever you think about asking me what type of job you should have. Your job does not mean the same as Joe from down the street that has tied the knot.

We have to retrain our thinking and grow to understand that why we work is mainly to support a family. There is value ascribed to working and more specifically a male working, because it’s genetically coded into us and because society has even a genetic, not just cultural, expectation that we be an altruistic provider.

My message in response to that is that why would I want to put undue amounts of stress on myself just to support and provide for one person and the kids. Wouldn’t I want to live without the external pressures of having to bring back venison to the camp every night, and instead if I do bring back venison to my camp, I can benefit myself and then search out whoever needs help that night. You in turn can end up benefiting a much larger scope of people, creating a much wider lens of influence with your charity and thus make stronger societal bonds with those around you, helping improve your happiness and internal and external value.

This is the underlying principle behind any MGTOW that goes his own way and is looking for work. Remember this, you’re not the same as a man that is dating or married. You’re not only not married to a female, you’re not married to a career.

2) From there, do what is going to afford you the most freedom

What affords you the most freedom? There are two paths that can be taken here. You can either bite the bullet now and take a job that you don’t like and have to slog through but brings in big bills in order to afford you flexibility and the ability to travel and live off what you’ve saved and not even work anything more than a part-time job or a small self-run enterprise once you have gained what you need to survive.

You can take this route. Maybe this is a sales job or an administrative job that requires you to be around co-workers you are not privy to spend time with, or a largely female work demographic. But, also consider that stress, even if it’s only across a five-year time span and not a 15-20 year time period, can incur a large loss in the longevity of your overall life.

Always important to weigh the pros and cons.

The other angle to the most freedom is choosing the job right off the bat that allows you to have a lot of freedom. This may be a couple of low-paying but low stress part-time jobs that are simple and allow you to focus almost exclusively on your hobbies, traveling and improving areas of yourself that you wouldn’t have the willpower or physical energy to pursue if you were going all out as a lawyer.

The problem with this is that you may not be able to save up with any personal investments and will potentially have low satisfaction. Many MGTOW men, and I’ve suffered from this, realize that because they won’t have the normal external pressures that force a man to reach high levels – they often settle for jobs and won’t reach the heights that they could and also reach levels of self-actualization that are attainable.

There is always the saying that a man doesn’t make his money until he is married. This is true in many cases, but being conscious of this trend is what can make us different MGTOW men. We can recognize where the external motivation comes from and see that it may be lacking, and instead compensate by recognizing the difference that we could make in whatever field we pursue because of all the other free time that going our own way gives us.

My dad has worked at the same job for 40+ years and while he has enjoyed it at times, it’s beating him down. I always said to him and to others that he would be living in a cardboard box if he didn’t get married and have three kids. The dude doesn’t ever buy anything new for himself and doesn’t give two wooden nickels other than coming home, eating dinner, watching the Cubs and listening to talk radio before he falls asleep.

He would be living in a freaking box, no doubt. But, being married likely gave him an additional fire. Just be aware of the differences in motivation between a man that just has his mouth to feed, vs. a man that has his mouth and other person’s mouth to feed.

Control Your Environment

Don’t understress the importance of who your boss is. By all means, make it a prime priority to only accept a job and interview where you know that you will have a male boss.

Also, always determine and control the environment that you’re choosing to interact with people. Often times the battleground that you’re in determines whether or not you’ll run into a manipulator in the first place.

This also goes with searching for a job. During an interview for example, make sure to be proactive when you are interviewed. When they give you an opportunity to speak and ask questions, ask many questions and speak on behalf of yourself. Ask them how much autonomy that you will have in the position, how much power to make decisions, what the work culture is like, etc. An employer that you want to work for is honest, doesn’t put you down for that question and is open to you changing how things are done if indeed you offer a better alternative to them. That’s my advice. Employers that aren’t open to change will stifle your own growth and progress. This is especially important because you will be at the start of your career and likely won’t want to work at this location for the rest of your life. Also, it’s important because you want to be able to improve certain skills, try out new responsibilities, and build your resume. Working for men is a far better option in my opinion as well, because they won’t feel threatened by supervising a man when compared against having a woman be your supervisor. Naturally, women are not used to being in control and having the power in a relationship. If they are in control and a man is who they’re controlling, oftentimes they will try to overcompensate for the biological confusion that they’re feeling. Men on the other hand are often more open to suggestions, your will to advance in the company and cohesion – especially as gender warfare continues to rage its way through the world.

Obviously this topic could be discussed in much further length, but that’s up for you guys to continue. Hit me up in the comment section, like, subscribe and send an email my way at sunrisehoodie@gmail.com. I will get back to you and many times your emails spawn ideas for me!

But, get through this hump day today. Kick back and catch up on your hobbies tonight, and as you guys know, hoodies up, hoodie out.

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